LMS Defense; Carbine 1 (March 2008)

LMS Defense offered a Carbine Operators course in Arizona in March 2008. Here are a few of the After Action Reviews (AARs) from students attending the class. Photos are courtesy of Yancey Harrington who instructed the class

LMS Defense Carbine 1 AAR

Day One had Yancey being the primary instructor. After confirming zeroes, we started with the basics, stance, trigger manipulation, and sight picture. After some work with this, paying attention to our sight offset, we added a threat scan, with a brief discussion on why this is needed. We then started to work on “tactical” reloads. Yancey showed us a couple of different ways to perform this, with Chris suggesting one that works really well for me. Then, we moved onto transitions. We took a break for lunch, and then we had a discussion on differing ways of carrying our stuff. Both Yancey and Chris suggested that we use a simple rig, with war-stories interspersed as to why they had certain things on their rigs. We then continued to work on the skills that we had been taught in the morning, culminating the day with three different drills on steel. The first was at 100 yards, from varying positions. We also did a little bit of work with our handguns at this distance. Then, we did a drill that Chris called the 5, 5, and 5. With three magazines loaded with 5 rounds each, we were supposed to shoot 5 rounds standing, reload, 5 rounds kneeling, reload, then 5 yards from the prone. We culminated the day with an Australian peel. Overall, we shot about 300 rounds of rifle, but those rounds were all of good quality.

Day Two had Chris as the primary instructor. We began with the Meltdown. At 15 yards, we shot a full magazine from our rifles, one at a time, with a transition after each round. Chris noticed that the aggregate skill with our handguns was lacking, so we spent about 20 minutes working with just that. After a short break, we progressed to different shooting positions. Chris showed us the three different kneeling positions, with a discussion on when to use each one. After some work in each one, we worked on roll-over prone, SBU prone and supine. We practiced these at close-ranges, then moved back to the 100 yard line, and shot from all of the new positions, except supine (for safety reasons). We broke for lunch. After lunch, we started to work on moving. We covered forward, backward, lateral (from both directions), and cutting in at an angle. We then moved onto shooting at multiple targets. We ended our instruction that day with shooting from behind cover. The day ended with shooting the qualification course.

What I learned

While none of the material presented was exactly new to me, I did pick up a few things. First, I need more live fire practice. Second, my gear needs a little bit of work. My sling would get hung up on things on my plate carrier.

This was a good, solid carbine class.

AAR By: ranger_sxt

AAR – LMS Defense Carbine 1, Casa Grande, AZ March 1-2

Let me start off by saying I was not sure what I would gain by attending this class. I did not know if it would offer more information than I could retain or, on the other hand, be too basic and I would be bored. At the conclusion of the class, I was very impressed.

First, this class was taught by two instructors, Yancey and Chris. Each brought his own twist and experiences to the use of a carbine. Their combination of both military and law enforcement backgrounds gave good insight and real world knowledge to the curriculum.

The students that attended this class were are also a pleasure to work with. The skill level ranged from little carbine experience to some decent shooters. Each of the students were quick to lend a hand, offer spare parts or lube, and even loan out their spare lower.

The class started out with the basics: the four rules of gun safety, emergency medical evac, an overview of the AR and AK weapon systems, and the fundamentals of marksmanship. From here, we moved onto the basics of operating the carbine. The instructors would explain and demonstrate different skillsets and then the students would practice drills. We would take breaks and discuss what we had learned and take the time to go over any questions or comments the students had.

Once the instructors determined the students had the necessary building blocks to safely operate their carbines, we moved on to more advanced weapon manipulations. The class covered tactical reloads, pistol transitions, target transitions, NSRs, malfunction drills, long range shooting, and different shooting positions. Again, once the instructors were confident in the abilities of the students, they proceeded to more complex operations. For me, this is where the class got spicy. We covered shooting on the move, multiple target tactics, and use of cover. The use of target steel for some of the drills allowed for instant feedback and was a real hit with the students.

This class moved at a decent pace. Topics were covered slow enough for the students to get a good grasp on them but fast enough to not lose anyone to boredom. Again, I would like to mention how much I appreciated the difference in the instructors backgrounds. Each seemed to compliment the other. The stories and realworld experiences gave credibility to the curriculum and left the students feeling more confident with the operation of the carbine in dynamic situations. I look forward to attending Carbine 2 and I will make it a point to attend Carbine 1 annually to knock off the rust and catch any bad habits that might form.

AAR by: Papa Wheelie

According to their website (LMSdefense.com):

The LMS Defense’s Carbine I course will teach marksmanship fundamentals, combat stress management, rifle zero, rifle manipulation, movement, use of cover, fighting from unusual positions, ground gun fighting, an introduction to team tactics, gear selection and on going self-training tools. This fast paced, challenging course will enable you to intelligently integrate the rifle into your arsenal of options; helping you remain the Last Man Standing.

Yancey Harrington
LMS Senior Instructor

Yancey Harrington is a former U.S. Army paratrooper who served with the 82nd Airborne Division. While in the 82nd Airborne Yancey attended M60 Machinegun Leaders Course, Anti-Armor Leaders Course, Jungle Operations Training (Panama) and deployed to Grenada during Operation Urgent Fury in October 1983. He has earned parachute wings and diplomas from Canada, Israel, South Africa, Mexico, Guatemala and El Salvador. After leaving active duty in 1985, Yancey served in the US Army reserves with 8th Battalion, 40th Armor as a Fire Support Section Sergeant. In 1993, Yancey graduated from the University of Arizona with a degree in Russian and Soviet Studies. Currently, Yancey is self-employed with his own consulting business.

Yancey enjoys training and has trained at: Gunsite Training Center, Blackwater Training Center, Rifles Only, McMillan Sniper School as well as with Jeff Gonzales, Max Joseph, Allan Brosnan, SouthNarc, Paul Howe, and Pat Rogers. Yancey has also trained with and currently assists David Scott Donelan with tracking classes at the Tactical Tracking Operations School for law enforcement and the military.